It's not abnormal for the customs in the Philippines to delay any package for more than a month, while they supposedly check it, without telling anyone. The result of such check could be that they decide to charge you more than the package is worth in fees and duties, or it could be that they just give it to you. They could sit on your package for 6 weeks, or 1 week, or not at all.
If they decide to charge you a fortune in import tax, you can go to them and bargain the fee! I kid you not, it is actually negotiable! Although that sound great, I think the discerning reader can figure out what really is going on - they're just trying to get you to pay as much as possible (which surely they will pocket themselves), with no regard to what the actual customs duty or tax really is. Also, it's not consistently negotiable of course, only sometimes, and sometimes only after you tell them they can shove the package where the sun won't shine...
Whether you get the package right away or have to wait until they've examined it for a few weeks or months, and whether you have to pay or not, seems almost random. I've read that the customs in the Philippines regard any package sent from abroad not the ownership of the recipient until they have released it. Apparently it is a privilege, not a right, to receive packages from outside of the Philippines. They also, apparently, though not consistently, calculate the import tax based on their assumed retail value - not the purchase price. To me, that's the weirdest way to calculate import tax that I've ever heard of!
I have noticed though that lately it has become better. I'm not sure if this is because they've learned that I'm going to put up a fight if their fees are too high, so they don't bother, or if they've actually got some guidelines to follow, including a minimum value, where packages below that value should not be delayed and just forwarded right away. Or maybe the post office here in Magalang, who are very friendly, simply told the customs to stop messing around with my packages as they have other things to do!
In any case, I am now happy to confirm that for the first time I've received packages from abroad (one from Singapore and one from China) which both arrived only around 10 days after being shipped, using regular mail! They were both low cost electronic components (not consumer electronics, but electronic components that a normal person would have no idea what to do with, or even what they are). That could also be why they didn't bother - they were of no value to them, so there was no hope that I'd just abandon it to them because I refuse to pay their ridiculous fees.
However I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, so unless proven otherwise I'm going to assume that the customs have improved and are now on the way to becoming like the customs in industrialized countries. If this is the case, commerce in the Philippines will benefit greatly!
As a result of this positive surprise, I've now ordered loads of stuff from eBay. Obviously, they're all things that I need for my electronics projects, but had delayed for a long while because I was uncertain about what kind of problems I'd get in customs. I will pay close attention to how long each of the packages take to arrive here.
Here's the customs declaration the sender used on the last package I received:
UPDATE (2019)
After the Duterte administrations demands for modernisation of the BOC, they have now raised the minimum amount that will trigger VAT/customs duty from 10 pesos to 10 000 pesos! This means that all packages from abroad valued at 10k or less, there won't be any customs fees or delays.
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ReplyDeleteThanks to you too, Zero, for starting that thread a log time ago - it has been quite interesting to follow the comment trail!
ReplyDeletehi! what courier did you use? do you think if i have a box sent to me full of bikini sets around 20pcs, and i input 5$ declared value, do you think they will believe it and wont tax me? or what if i change the currency to RMB so they wont want to convert it to $? im trying to import things from china. i need the fastest and cheapest way. hope you can help me! thank you!
ReplyDeleteSara, that's the thing - I did not use a courier. My packages were sent using either China Mail, Hong Kong Mail or Singapore Mail - standard post office, in other words. I'm guessing these attract less attention than the courier shipped ones.
DeleteI've never tried importing clothes - especially since they are so cheap here anyway! Are you sure you can't get them manufactured here for the same price?
Anyhow, this guy did, involuntarily: http://www.calvinshub.com/2009/11/oops-philippines-customs-did-it-again/ - Seems to me that the possible inspection and taxation of your items is pretty random. The last 35 or so packages I've received had no tax at all, only 50 pesos customs fee payable on the post office. My guess is that if they don't inspect it, you'll get it quickly and with only the P50 (or P100, if delivered) fee, but if they inspect it they'll see that they are new items in saleable quantity and surely want their share and then some. You need to take this into account in your business model - if you can't bear the additional tax, don't import it. Your profit margin should cover it, basically. If you're getting a bit bigger, you could move to balik bayan box. That's some kind of magic under-the-radar exception that only exists here in the Philippines. Everything in them is regarded as excess baggage and not taxed.
There's also these "custom brokers", which entire existence I find a bit ridiculous. I mean, if the tariff, fees and procedure was made clear, they would be completely superfluous. But as it stands, none of those things are clear, so their role is probably more like a "fixer", or negotiator. What I'd like to have though, would be a blackmailing service - "I know the fee schedule, tariff, etc. and what you've given me looks much more like a scam. I give you 10 minutes to release this item under my terms, or you'll have a visit by the local police." THAT would be serving justice!